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PositioningCreate, share, discover great grassroots mediaOurmedia 1.0 was a place to upload media for free. We need to take it to the next level by getting simpler, more personal, more creative. Ourmedia 2.0 will be all about community. In Ourmedia 2.0, we want to give partner sites the ability to help contribute to our home page programming with their own channels. They will need to share our philosophy: Open Media PrinciplesOpen media principles:
How is Ourmedia different from YouTube and the 97 other flavors of video hosting sites out there? Let us count the ways! Ourmedia's vision1) We're about participation and community. Most other video hosting sites cater to passive consumers who watch, or who upload a single video and leave. We cater to empowered users, who can create, remix or download video to any device. Ourmedia is a public resource that supports the Commons, the public interest and the goal of civic engagement by an informed community. Every user must choose a license, and we encourage people to use Creative Commons. So we're not just a place to store your personal media and watch video, we're a community of media users who want to use media: download it to any device, consume it on your terms, possibly remix it. Ourmedia is for users, not just consumers. 2) We're about learning. Ourmedia is a gathering place for people to learn how to create media -- and create better media -- through our Learning Center and a community that connects newbies with experienced media makers. We're working with Node101 and a dozen universities to broaden the public's access to digital media learning tools. 3) We're a hub for open source and open media. We're lightnet. That is, we're about open media. Open standards. Open source. An open registry. No DRM. We want to serve as glue to help bring together disparate open media sites and repositories rather than offering just another stand-alone, enclosed, walled-garden destination site. We're building open source tools that can be shared across other sites. The lightnet and glue factors are what make Ourmedia an interesting open source project and not just a web site. 4) We're about creativity and quality media. We don't want to be a firehose -- a black hole sucking bandwidth and emitting no light. We don't want to be a free-for-all site where people just post frothy, dumb videos. We're after something deeper: telling meaningful stories. We want to nourish high-value grassroots media. We support metadata that encourages people to supply textual context and backstory. 5) We support Remix Culture. We're working with Creative Commons, Outhink and several open media projects and repositories to create a space for people to mash up and remix video, audio, music and images. We are providing collaborative tools for the next wave of online creativity: collaboration, in which artists borrow from each other and the culture at large to create new works. 6) We offer a long shelf life for all kinds of personal media, not just video. As media convergence happens, users will look for solutions that tie together video, audio, games, images and text. Ourmedia is a life-long hosting solution that believes in your work. We are inextricably linked to the Internet Archive, which has a 10-year record of preserving and refreshing digital media. We are not a transient hosting service that won't be around three years from now. Now, we need to become easy to use and way cooler than the competing services. As M. Verdi says:
As Ryanne says:
talk about a community.
wordpress is not even as easy or indepth as i want it to be page will include Ourmedia 2.0 will be all about creating a thriving community of people who create, share, discover and learn how to make better grassroots media. At the same time, we need to internalize lessons from the success of the YouTubes of the world so that:
jay adds: In the Videoblogging Group, there is all kinds of arguments why Creating better media is the key. For the record, there is so much good video being uploadedto OM now. One point. so I want to define what I want OurMedia to become. I want to go to OM. My OM blog at http://jaydedman.ourmedia.org already has RSS 2.0 with enclosures. If we can accomplish the above, we will be as easy as these Flash michael sullivan adds: its totally feasible. in fact, if used properly, videobloggers.org back-end system achieves similar result.... I also like to pimp this stuff: Just a few early examples that do try to cut through all the hassle. We can do this! Drupal can be made to do this! Sull michael meiser: I guess to back up a little, flickr has that right balance between ownership and community... perhaps we don't need customizable design templates as I suggested in my last email.. but we at least must keep such a platform up to date and competitive with other webservices. I question though how well wordpress could be tied in with ourmedia's more "social" or community oriented functions. perhaps there's some way we could partner with feedburner or some of these other services so that users could automatically gain the ability of these services. I.E. claim their feed on feedburner and then customize it. What about also developing cross posting interoperability with MT, Blogger, wordpress even if or though me might offer someone a wordpress blog? I still question though when looking at flickr pages, and myspace and livehournal if we really need full design customization... I'm perhaps much more partial to the relationship I have between flickr and my blog in which flickr stores all my photos but I can cross post galleries of thumbnails or individual photos to my blog. I guess this issue of customizeablity of the blog really depends on wether these independant blog pages would have ourmedia "community" pages in them. If it's going to be community orinented people are going to have to travel around ourmedia THROUGH these user vlog pages, and hence perhaps the design shouldn't be customizeable otherwise people will become wildely disoriented when traveling around. I think this is more the case then later. It's a tough call. How much ownership can we give users vs. how much community? ... If ourmedia is to succeed as a channel for communications we need to have a solid At the heart of those issues is making Ourmedia NOT another flickr, Adam Fields: I've thought about this a bit, and discussed it some with Jay. I'd This is the same software infrastructure that it would take to allow Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't see any reason why those michael meiser: Is Ourmedia going to be more like a blogger.com or is it going to be more like a flickr.com. Blogger being complete customization, flickr the only customization really being your photos, titles and description. Oh! let's not forget your user icon. :) While I love both services... I'm more in favor of the flickr.com type blog page based on the functionality it allows i.e. http://flickr.com/photos/mmeiser - as refernce blogger: http://googlemapsmania.blogspot.com/ - fully customizeable Limiting customizations on layout, aestetics and content on the flickr photo feed pages allows flickr enough control over my photo blog page to leverage in community services and enough continuity that flickr can flow community traffic through this page without them getting lost or confused. Of course you could do BOTH... which is to say have an independant blog at username.ourmedia.com AND a community blog at Ouremedia.com/people/username... The only difference would be the first page would be fully customizeable and independant of the community... and the second page community facing and integrating ourmedia's community features, standad ourmedia layout and design... BUT the thing is it might get a little complex two do both as it would take obviously about twice as much effort to develop. A few other points that might factor into this. 1) One... crossposting.. if we do it it favors the flickr model... Why offer cross posting and a fully customizeable blog. If we don't do cross posting to platforms like moveabletype and wordpress we should make the blogs more customizable. 2) If we allow for full custization we're comiting ourmedia to being a full on blogging platform. We'll need things like bookmarklets and all manner of blogging craziness... well, I guess I already pointed this out, if we use something like wordpress all these full on blog features will be provided. Still it's an idealogical step away from just being a media sharing site, like flickr or youtube. 3) Branching Ourmedia out so anyone can install the source package. If we're allowing anyone to install the package we might get more uptake if we make it more flexible, building in customization options... sharing templates, etc., etc. Anyway, I'm just illustrating the differences, the blogger.com way and the flickr.com way. Such direction is more than just aesthetic consideration it's an ideological issue... are we a more community facing, a "media sharing" site like flickr.com or are we more trying to sell people on having a fully customizeable independant media blog/vlog. ... You know, we're starting to sound an awefully lot like blip.tv. Why Blip's typical blog page... How that translates to the user blog via crossposting... I've got to say, while we are starting to sound a little like blip. Besides, I'm sure if we move toward blip they'll still have plenty of So! how bout it, shall we just copy everything Blip.tv does!? jay dedman: yes, crossposting like on Blip.tv is a must. blogger or flickr? we dont have to be one or the other. but we are also creating OM to handle the new folks that YouTube is attracting. valentin spirik: i like jd's 10 positioning points, i like adam's and jay's "satellite" idea/view and i think i would agree with most things posted here so far. here my view/vision (maybe sometimes repeating what has already been said): alternative rich media hub i see ourmedia as an alternative rich media hub, but a lot still will have to be build. what is seen as e.g. professional film making or tv today is often just very bad film making or tv made with a lot of money. those people who have a story to tell often (still) don't get the chance or don't do it. the amateurs of today are a lot of those pros producing all this quickly made, uninspired and industrialised media work. it's boring. soon no one will want to see this, at least more and more people don't want to. and this is where i see ourmedia: featuring the next generation of media makers (and this is not about age!). pro and grassroots becomes one, or it just does not matter. a good story is a good story. a couple of years ago they could tell you that hi-8 is not good enough to be shown on tv, with mini-dv and internet this argument does not work any more. anyone who makes media can distribute it - as long as there are sites like ourmedia... this is why we need that site: it is the future of a world wide, alternative, creative, grassroots media distribution system. maybe others will join in, but they have to be pushed a bit... how to generate money more often the question will be raised of how to generate money for a) the site b) for people who put a lot of work into either the site or online media. i am thinking a lot about b) these days. i want to publish my media online first: it is easy and basically for free. (i am thinking of how to combine online and real world distribution for film making: like streaming my movies to a cinema screen etc... maybe that's ourmedia 3.0.) i always want to offer - at least certain parts - of my media for free via cc-licenses. but like others (thinking of some very talented musicians/composers we have on ourmedia) i have to find a way of how to make money with this. we should also have more discussions about that at the right places. learning centre i like the idea of a learning centre. my vision would be a free online multi media (film) school. like wikipedia for media, but interactive and with real people. this kind of thing works if people teach each other what they know. that means: everyone has to spend some time teaching, explaining, helping, but there is also always someone who is a bit better than oneself at something. and this person than teaches you. etc... (example: the game of "go" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_(board_game) is successfully taught this way online, and in real life it has been taught that way for about 4000 years - at least in asia...) obviously this only works if people understand the potential of the concept, maybe it has to be explained in ways the cc-concept has to be explained. what ourmedia could become my best online/virtual friend wrote the following in his blog http://realdigirev.blogspot.com/. this basically sums up what i think ourmedia could become: "a true interactive world wide multi media online show to which everyone will be invited to contribute and watch and listen or read at the same time - the biggest free rave/party/show the world has ever seen: a "bring your own"-"take away"-"all you can mix"-event that will make look sodom and gomorrah as just another homophobic footnote in some historic scriptures - replace the literal tower of babel by a gigantic virtual people's palace of music and pictures: where love is the only authority know since it is as free as the air we breathe and as manifold and unique and special as each single snow crystal that ever was and ever will be..." 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